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by **Fredric** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 9:37 am

My top three directors are Welles, Huston (as you can see from my avatar), and Frankenheimer. Welles has this great resource "Wellesnet", so I decided that Huston and Frankenheimer each need one. Since there is absolutely no discussion going on about Frankenheimer anywhere, I decided to create a Yahoo Group for him here.

Based on the success of this, a Huston group will follow. I've got three whole people right now (including me), so if anyone wants to join, I'd be most appreciative.

Thanks.

by **Welles Fan** » Mon Jun 30, 2003 12:31 am

Have you seen Frankenhiemer's BMW film?

by **Fredric** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 9:16 am

Not yet. Do you have a link?

by **Harvey Chartrand** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:09 am

I consider Seconds to be the ultimate John Frankenheimer film.
Since you're really into Frankenheimer, you might enjoy "Anyone for Seconds?" at http://www.horror-wood.com/seconds.htm.

by **Welles Fan** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 4:19 pm

Harvey: I could not get the link to work, but will try later. Seconds is one scary-ass creepy movie, though!

Frederic: you should be able to see Frankenheimer's Ambush by clicking here. Several of the BMW films are fun.

by **TheMcGuffin** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 7:04 pm

I definatly second that. Of all the BMW films his was the best. I used it and Ronin as great inspirations for one of my student films, that along with Wellesian deep focus photography.

Rob

by **Lance Morrison** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:25 pm

I guess my top two are Orson Welles and Werner Herzog.......though Bunuel, Renoir, Murnau, Godard, and a few others might creep in there too once I see more of their films

by **Welles Fan** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 10:40 am

I guess after Welles, I'd go with Ford and Hitchcock, and maybe Kurosawa. They're the ones I have the most videos of, anyway.

by **TheMcGuffin** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 3:49 pm

For me, Welles, Hitchcock and a tie between Kurosawa and Wilder (who really deserves more attention that he gets).

Rob

by **Cole** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 8:08 pm

Hey Lance - glad to see there’s another Buñuel fan on this web board. Was he the smartest madman that God ever created, or what? From what I can tell, along with Welles he had to be the most intelligent person who had anything to do with making movies. I wish someone as ambitious as Jeff or Fred would create a forum devoted to Buñuel. The world wide web needs one badly.

And incidentally, I’m drinking a Buñuel martini as I write. I’m dead serious. They make me grin – sort of like that picture of Grisby over on the left.

by **Lance Morrison** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 11:20 pm

Cole, I agree....though Incidentally I have only seen "The Discreet Charm Of the Bourgeosie", but I loved it soooooooo much, I felt the same watching it how I felt watching Kane or Touch Of Evil---this is a person enjoying himself when it comes to making film....I have Viridiana ordered right now and cannot wait. We definately need a discussion board for him.

And I want one for Herzog too....maybe I'll make one..I love the man so much, have seen 5 of his films...

Anyon like Bergman too? have seen two of his...

Anyone into silents? F.W. Murnau I love to death, but only four of his films are easily findable...at least 5 others are not available or are destroyed and (perhaps his greatest) Sunrise can only be obtained when you purchase 3 movies from Fox Studio Classics, you cant just buy it....SIGH

I know i havnt seen a lot of films, but ive only been into classic and foreign and artistic films for a couple months or so

by **colwood** » Fri Jul 04, 2003 11:09 am

For me, I'd have to say my favorites are Welles, followed closely by Kurosawa and Chaplin.

by **Harvey Chartrand** » Fri Jul 04, 2003 11:28 am

Curtis Harrington is tops in my books.

by **Welles Fan** » Sun Jul 06, 2003 12:25 am

Lance: Back in the early days of the Bravo® Channel-their glory days in the early 80's, when they were subscription only and showed uncut films-they used to show something called the International film Festival. I got to see more Herzog than I cared for, and That Obscure Object of Desire (only Buñuel I've seen) and pretty much all of Bergman. I had a little trouble getting through The Silence, Winter Light and Cries and Whispers, but I really enjoyed everything else of his.

by **Noel Shane** » Sun Jul 06, 2003 10:49 am

Bravo used to be the best channel on television. I remember them showing quite a bit of Kurosawa at the time too. Truffaut. Others. TCM has no competition for the crown now. Incidentally, they'll be showing Bergman's lovely Smiles of a Summer Night Friday night/Saturday morning at 2:00am.

I chicken out at list-making (at the exclusion of so many favorites); or at least I'd be forced to come up with silly sub-lists like "favorite American directors", "favorite silent directors", etc., to take the sting out of it. Rating intelligence is still murkier territory (though the conversation should include the names Jean Renoir, Roberto Rossellini, Stanley Kubrick, just for starters, as well as those mentioned), even casually, if only because it's such an amorphous quality in the artist, not least the filmmaker (a somewhat amorphous category in itself).

But this is an interesting thread, seeing who a few of the Welles fans like on the side. I never would have guessed Frankenheimer.

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