Imitation Welles? - Filmbrain on JOURNEY INTO FEAR

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Postby Harvey Chartrand » Tue May 10, 2005 10:26 am

"Looks like Welles, feels like Welles... but isn't Welles." Filmbrain on Journey Into Fear:
http://filmbrain.typepad.com/filmbrain/2005/05/looks_like_well.html
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Postby Glenn Anders » Wed May 11, 2005 5:48 pm

Thank you, Harvey, for that decent review.

Unfortunately, on my screen, about a quarter of it was lost because "About Me," "Archives," etc., obscured the left hand margin.

We have discussed this matter before. No doubt, the film was quickly done, written by Welles and Joseph Cotton, but directed mostly by Norman Foster, Loretta Young's brother-in-law -- after Welles left for Brazil, following his completion of THE MAGNIFICENT AMBERSONS, and finishing his scenes as Colonel Haki (one of his most off hand, careless performances). Welles always said that, to him, the most interesting scenes were those which showed the personal and political tensions set up by the relationships of the passengers on the ship. And almost all of that was cut out.

I guess you would have to say, what was Welles in the picture was Welles, and what was not Welles . . . was not.

Thank you for the contribution.

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Postby catbuglah » Sat Jul 02, 2005 1:29 am

Nice review - Saw it today on a video bootleg - The talented Mercury group makes it worthwhile - I liked Dolores del Rio, as well. That finale ledge scene does look like Welles, brillianlty filmed... The first scene with Colonel Haki looks like Welles direction also.

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Postby jaime marzol » Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:16 am

i like imitation welles, anthony man and aldrich are disciples. who else? tim burton has certainly put in time, scorsese.
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Postby catbuglah » Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:10 pm

I saw a Simpsons episode today - the one where Elliott Gould assaults Krusty the Clown because his monkey was biting his kids due to their use of banana-flavored suntan lotion. There's a Lady from Shanghai takeoff as the finale takes place in a circus hall of mirrors because that's where the private detective sold the lab test animals in his plot to frame Lisa because Homer refused to pay his extravagant expense tab. Only the mirrors don't get shattered as the detective was subdued with a laser spotter instead. Homer's final line says it all : 'How ironic - he ends up blinded after a lifetime of being able to see.'
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Postby Roger Ryan » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:52 pm

"The Simpsons" have included a number of Wellesian gags over the years. I fondly recall in one episode Mr. Burns proclaiming in anger "I am Charles Montgomery Burns, I'm no crooked politician!". Even better was a later episode where they combined references to Welles' first two films with Homer exclaiming, "I'm Homer P. Simpson and I will not get my comeuppance!"
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Postby Orson&Jazz » Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:08 pm

I liked an earlier episode of the Simpson's where Mr. Smithers does a song and dance routine similar to the one in Kane for Mr. Burns.


There is a man - a certain man

What is his name? It's Monty Burns!



And there is the episode where Mr. Burns is looking for a childhood teddy bear named BoBo. The title of the episode is called "Rosebud".
"I know a little about Orson's childhood and seriously doubt if he ever was a child."--Joseph Cotten
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Postby catbuglah » Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:18 pm

"The Simpsons" have included a number of Wellesian gags over the years.


Gee, all that's missing is the bomb scene from TOE - Those Simpsons writers are remarkably well-versed in popular cultural, especially by today's standards, or rather lack thereof. I remember that Kane political campaign spoof... One flagrant imitation Welles for me is what Hitchcock took from TOE to do Psycho (then again I saw a museum expo on Hitchcok displaying how he lifted a Fritz Lang mise-en-scène verbatim).

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Postby catbuglah » Sat Jul 09, 2005 7:00 pm

Looks like Welles, feels like Welles...

Prince of Foxes is another nice one- (dialog is overall nice - methinks it's the acting that sinks this one) but I believe the maestro directs the two scenes that he's in - 15 minutes of primo Welles audio-visuals - a nice stark, elegant, Othello style - quite a bit of little Welles trademarks stamped in - I'll take that any day of the week... (and twice on Sundays)...

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Postby catbuglah » Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:53 pm

The Simpsons" have included a number of Wellesian gags over the years.


Another Simpsons Welles gag today - Episode where Krusty runs for Congress - there's a brief clip where the mayor of Springfield is apparently sleeping with Susan Alexander. When she speaks for the first time, the mayor to reply 'Had I known you sounded like that, I wouldn't have built you an opera house.' ;)

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