hollywood's walk of fame - kermit got one

[jaime marzol]

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does any one know if welles got a star on the hollywood walk of fame? him being the outsider he was i can't imagine the galla affair during his years there, and i don't ever remember seeing pictures of welles wiping cement off his hands.

this hit me after hearing the kermit the frog is getting a star on the hollywood walk of fame. it seems to me they should be a bit more selective with who they pick.

now any stuffy star feeling high and mighty because they were awarded a star can be hacked down to size by being reminded that the fake frog got one too.

[Fat Annie]

Actually, Welles has two different stars, one for radio and one for films. He should, of course, have one for theater as well. Unfortunately, the price charged by the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce for a star has risen in the past 15 years. it was possible to get one for a "donation" of a few thousand dollars. Now the price is in 5 figures and typically paid by a studio or record company promoting an artist's upcoming release. Perhaps the Estate would like to donate the fee.... after all, who in the 20th Century deserves a star for theater more than OW?

[jaime marzol]

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after what film did welles get his star? i've never seen pictures of welles's walk of fame ceremony, but i do remember seeing m. monroe's pictures during the ceremony. poor thing, i'm sure she had no idea all that cleavage was showing.

i had no idea you could buy those stars, i thought it was an award, a sort of honor bestowed on some one. well, kermit got one. puff daddy will get one next.

[jaime marzol]

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ok, i'm getting my ceremonies mixed up. the walk of fame, and the cement deal are 2 different ceremonies. welles got 2 stars on the walk of fame, i would not have seen pictures of him wipping cement off his hands.

so there will be some 6 foot schlum actor in a big green frog suit, pretending to be kermit, but he will not be pressing his frog flippers in wet cement.

did welles get to do the cement route also? off the top of my head i don't remember ever reading about the walk of fame, or the cement deal at graumaan's.

[Obssessed_with_Orson]

i don't think the stars are the ones that they stick their hands into. they are just a star with their names on it. no signatures or whatchamacolits.

their different from that.

i don't think it should be his hands that leave an impression mark. i think it should be one of the two most famous things of him. either his brain or his vocal cords. if not either of the two there. then maybe a microphone impressed into it.

but of course, with his signature. besides, it's a good thing there isn't one of him. it would've probably gotten loose and someone would've taken off with it. even me.

bye now!

[jaime marzol]

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vocal cords too hard to get, knowing welles, i think he would have signed the cement then shoved houseman's face in the wet concrete, giving houseman one more thing to whine about.

i guess KANE did not open at grauman's or welles would have a sidewalk block. from all accounts the response to KANE was spectacular, it just didn't show anywhere.

[Obssessed_with_Orson]

heard too much whinin' from mr. hoosemen already.

put charles higham in there instead. and don't make it look good.

bye now!

bye the way, anyone got a photo of the so called mention bastard, c.h.?

[jaime marzol]

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come to think of it, i've never seen a picture if charles higham. always wondered what an SOB looks like.

[Jeff Wilson]

While I'm no fan of his, can we end the petty sniping at Higham? If you need to see a picture of him, find the dustjacket to one of his books. I know he's pictured in my copy of his Welles bio.

[jaime marzol]

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petty snipping sounds so low, i thought i was just plain snipping. didn't think i was getting out of control, but i'll stop. my welles book i got in second hand bookstore and had no dust jacket, the flynn book was a paperback, so no picture there either.

[Jeff Wilson]

I didn't think either of you were going too far, but Chuckles Higham is hardly worth the effort, aside from pointing out the flaws in his many works of "biography".

[jaime marzol]

chuckles higham! i like that. that fits pretty well.

[aggie]

la Higham appears in the recent ABC (Australia) doco on Merle Oberon (which documents the unshakeable belief of many in the state of Tasmania that M.O. was born and raised there). Higgam is wheeled on to outline the starlet's impeccable Eurasian credentials and Indian origins. i guess jaime could redub the soundtrack so la H voices abject apologies to the master... :p

[jaime marzol]

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wheeled on? he's in a wheelchair?

(this is not snipping, this is just talk)

if it wasn't for the fact that he's injuring people, it's actually kind of funny. La 'H' in his book discribes how graciously he was welcomed into some one's home, and how gracious the person was to open all his memorabilia, and memories to him, then he twists everything around.

after the fact the welcoming person can just sit back in bewilderment and wonder 'what the hell is wrong with that guy,' while the phone is ringing off the hook with a pissed orson on the other end wanting to know why you said all those awfull things about him.

it is a shitty thing to do but in a dark way it's kind of funny. you can imagine higham in his study snickering at all the people his pissed off.

[Jeff Wilson]

Actually, I was wrong, Higham isn't pictured in the Welles bio. I know I've seen a shot of him on one of his books, though. A guy like Higham is a curious thing; someone who exists merely to "expose" what isn't there, or to destroy people for whatever petty reason, be it jealousy, inferiority, or who knows. His Errol Flynn book has been disproven for the pack of lies it apparently was, but it's hardly stopped him. Looking at reviews of his Howard Hughes bio, it appears many of his claims are spurious there as well. Take this excerpt from a review of the book in Fortune magazine:

"How much of this is true, how much guesswork, how much hooey? That exceeds the purview of this review, though some of the supporting reeds do look thin. Higham says of one source, "he is too circumspect today to say that Hughes was procrastinating." (Translation: He didn't say it.) Elsewhere Higham notes, "Although [Ava Gardner] was careful to dodge the matter in her memoirs, she more than implied in them that she knew he was bisexual." (Translation: She didn't say it."

And from a review of his co-authored bio of Cary Grant:

"The writing is on a par with the psychological insights. Of Grant they write that "the fairy godmothers who had bestowed upon him many gifts exacted the familiar price of depriving him of the very things he wanted most [including] the ability to love and be loved which of course starts with loving yourself." In this lurid book, the authors cruelly defame a man who can't defend himself and show disdain for his admirers' ability to distinguish honest biography from innuendo. Even if what they write is true -- and the evidence they offer is hardly convincing -- the question remains: Why would Grant's admirers want to subject themselves to this kind of disillusionment?"

And of course, Higham wrote a biography attempting to rehabiliate Louis B Mayer, a colossal scumbag if there ever was one. That Higham, what a guy!