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by **Great Orson** » Mon May 30, 2005 2:35 am

Since I watched "Citizen Kane" I couldn't help thinking of Orson and watching it day by day....
I'm just a simple fan of Orson who have watched just one movie of him... I have tried so hard to find more movies of him to watch them but I failed and that I wish with your aid I can at least get some little information about them....

by **Chirpy_Sabz** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:57 pm

I got his movies, F For Fake, Touch Of Evil, The Trail, Stranger, Lady from Shangai and The Third Man all from amazon.com.

his other films I want to see... the Magnificant Ambersons and Chimes At Midnight...I saw them at ebay.com...I will probably get those soon.

by **etimh** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:15 pm

Hi Great Orson, and I guess hello to Chirpy_Sabz (?!)

as well.

Great One: are you asking how to actually get your hands on Welles' films to watch? As Chirpy says, many are available on Amazon for sale and if you live anywhere near civilization, you can actually rent some of the more well known films. But you're online, so get Netflix or Blockbuster online and rent them there. If money is an issue, most university libraries (and some better public ones) have a lot of Welles that you can check out.

If you are looking for suggestions on WHAT to watch next, definitely go for "Lady From Shanghai," "Touch of Evil," and "F for Fake" (these are easy to get and very important). Of course, everyone has their favorites and I'm sure to get assaulted by others with different preferences and opinions. I would next try to watch "The Trial," "Mr. Akadin," and "Magnificent Ambersons."

Other than the films, read everything you can get your hands on--search the threads of this board for voluminous and (mostly) useful opinions on all of the Welles material available. Its good to see new fans interested in discussing the man and his work--DOESN'T EVERYONE AGREE?

Regardless, I welcome you.

Tim

by **Chirpy_Sabz** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:21 pm

Its good to see new fans interested in discussing the man and his work--DOESN'T EVERYONE AGREE?

Regardless, I welcome you.

Tim

thanks...

yes it is hehe.

I am a new fan of Orson Welles, only like 3 weeks old

I am really fascinated by him.

by **jaime marzol** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 5:27 am

arkadin i've always liked, all three of them.

have especially enjoyed lady from shanghai and the PB commentary

touch of evil, the trial and chimes are in my top 10 list. fake is real high up on my list.

oh hell, i like all his movies.

lately have been enjoying don q with music playing instead of the film audio. i think don q either needs more cursing, or no cursing at all. the timid cursing in it now just doesn't cut it.

make a vhs tape that has audio track of music you like, and the video is don q. Make dvds of the tape and send then to all your friends for christmas. they will wonder what the hell went wrong with you.

by **R Kadin** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:13 am

etimh said:

Its good to see new fans interested in discussing the man and his work--DOESN'T EVERYONE AGREE?

Yes, I'm sure we all agree. Welcome, newcomers, lurkers and visitors all!

And the film suggestions so far seem spot on. I'll add just a bit of a head's up for those who, like so many of us, came to admire Welles by seeing Kane for the first time: if in his subsequent films you're looking for more just like it, you're on the wrong track. If you want to take the Welles bus, you've got to be ready to go wherever he feels like taking you. "Familiar ground" wasn't his route.

Get ready for anything because that's what's coming your way, some of it so rough looking and unsync-ed you're liable to think the man might have lost his grip on the medium. Good. Committed deconstructionist that he was, he'd probably enjoy that reaction because it proves you've been engaged in and challenged by his work. Go ahead and take affront, even. The more you find yourself watching and thinking, "What the h*ll...?!!", the better.

Kane excites for many reasons, not the least of which being that the viewer can feel him/herself being engaged on so many levels. In Kane, however, Welles was going relatively easy on his audience. With few exceptions, his subsequent work demands - no, expects - even more. If you give him that "more", what you'll get back you won't get anywhere else.

Oh, by the way, you'll be forgiven if when you thought of Welles previously you thought mainly cinema. But, now that you're here, you won't be forgiven if blinker yourself out of sampling his fabulously rich radio work. A lot of it is even more accessible than his films - and instantly so in today's online world. Play it when you're in a position to pay attention and you'll find yourself discovering a whole new dimension to a device you might have thought was only good for delivering hit tunes and traffic reports. You might even be confounded as to why such a marvellous pasttime all but disappeared - for what? Television?? Then you could find yourself anxious to hear more and more, anxious to go back to the 1930's: they were much more advanced, then.

So, welcome aboard and enjoy the ride. Sometimes the passengers get a bit rowdy but that's just part of the experience. And more evidence of the active engagement that, as an artist, Our Man was all about.

by **etimh** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 2:09 pm

Great suggestions from marzol--never thought of messing with don q like that--sounds fun!

And again, wisdom from R Kadin--well put advice on the evolution of the filmmaking, and the encouraging words on the radio work!

Tim

by **tony williams** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:22 pm

This is a very welcome response to new members on the part of seasoned veterans. We often tend to forget that many are discovering KANE and Welles for the first time particularly in an era when the films we once saw theatrically or on broadcast television are often relegated to cable at 3.A.M.

Many of my students are no longer the classical film generation since they struggle with classes, high tuition fees, and part-time jobs. Education is now a very important process and it is so gratifying to see members making these great suggestions, especially concerning the radio work.

by **Chirpy_Sabz** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:33 pm

oh out of the his radio shows, I have only heard War of the Worlds...I found this website but the shows take way too long to download ??? ...I will try to find another place online or just get them on Cd I guess.

R Kadin - nice write up. I totally agree with you.

Website · by **Glenn Anders** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:37 pm

Welcome, Chirpy_Sabz!

You will always find good advice in the entries of R Kadin.

Companies like Radio Spirits are good souces for certain Welles' Radio programs, on tape and CD.

Glenn

by **Phoebe Wallingford** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 9:37 am

There's a wonderful audio DVD "The Orson Welles Radio Anthology" from earthstation1.com. It has EVERYTHING he did on radio---Mercury Theater, Campbell Playhouse, The Shadow, The Third Man, The Black Museum "and more" (don't know exactly what "more" is, the dvd is new & I haven't gotten that far). It's fantastic.

by **Great Orson** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 12:34 pm

Thank you for suggestions and sorry, I didn't notice that you've replied this thread and just noticed it...

Well, I've tried Amazon.com and eBay.com but no use because they don't support Iran and also I don't have a credit card...

I've heard of some order cards or something....do you know anything about it then?

Thanks

by **etimh** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 12:55 pm

Great Orson: You are actually in Iran?! Wow, that's amazing! I realize now that my suggestions to you were very "Western biased," but I had no idea of your location and made some hasty presumptions.

Its great to have you here, nonetheless, and best of luck in however you go about finding Welles material. Is standard mail delivery from foreign countries an option? Fill us in on the specifics of your situation.

Tim

by **Great Orson** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:22 pm

Yes Tim, I live in Iran...

Yes, I can recieve mails from other countries here but I cannot order it anywhere in order to recieve it

Well, my situation, let me tell it to you in detail: I'm 17, living in Tehran, captial of Iran. I got to know Orson 2 years ago and from then on I started searching for his movies or any books about him....I found A Man For All Seasons and a book about him... In Iran, online shopping is not availabe and there's no credit cards (though, they say there's gonna be) Orson is completely unknown here and so are his movies. In libraries, there's no movie of him...You know, the reason I don't send replys in the forum is it, I have just seen one movie of him and don't know anything about him

Thanks, Mohammad

by **Phil Rosenthal** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:10 am

RE: "The Orson Welles Radio Anthology" that Phoebe mentioned in this thread - it looks like a great bargain (at 9.99) - but what is an "mp3 audio DVD"? What is required to play it (will it play on a standard DVD player)?

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