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Postby Flint » Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:26 pm

This is really embarrassing, but it occures to me I don't know what "LOL" stands for. Thanks in advance for keeping this quiet...

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Postby Jeff Wilson » Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:54 pm

Laughing Out Loud
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Postby Kubed » Fri Mar 05, 2004 4:18 pm

ChipTaylor is selling the DVD for $39 plus S&H.

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Postby Sir Bygber Brown » Sat Mar 06, 2004 9:43 am

Hey Flint, i just emailed everybody i know to tell them you didn't know what LOL stood for, and they emailed back saying "LOL."
You may remember me from such sites as imdb, amazon and criterionforum as Ben Cheshire.
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Postby Sir Bygber Brown » Sat Mar 06, 2004 9:49 am

On a more serious note, i had the opportunity of catching an episode of Around the World on my much publicised recent world tour of selected cities in Europe, and i didn't really like it - i guess it wasn't intended to compete with a feature film, so i shouldn't compare it to the joy of watching even those four minutes or so of Merchant of Venice from OMB, but Around the World rubbed me the wrong way. I think it was mainly because i didn't like hearing Orson speaking French, and the subject matter didn't interest me. At some stage, if it becomes available at a low price here i'll jump at the chance to watch the other episodes and see how i find them.
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Postby Welles Fan » Mon Mar 15, 2004 6:27 pm

Jaime: the Tynan article that Orson regarded as a "stab in the back" was almost certainly Tynan's review of Welles' staged version of Othello, which Tynan tastelessly titled "Citizen Coon".
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Postby jaime marzol » Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:24 am

wow, citizen coon.

in an article i read, some one quoted tynan calling othello the n*gger of venice, which is pretty rough. but citizen coon!

watched AROUND THE WORLD WITH OW again. it's ok. i was not thrilled by it. not a lot of what i look for in welles. here is an example of welles trying not to be welles!
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Postby Glenn Anders » Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:59 pm

Tynan, a very great supporter of Welles during much of the 1950's, who saw him as breath of creativity in the smoky London air, may have been trying to adopt American slang, chic at the time, not realizing that his essentially anti-racist American counterparts would not have used the epithet, which was a crude Southern regionalism.

In his use of the N-word, a second factor came into play. The British, at least many of them in my experience, because of their Colonial underpinnings, perhaps, used the word in everday life for the color black.

This usage was certainly racist, but in many cases innocent of bigotry.

I remember that, in 1955, the U.S.Army Anti-Aircraft in Britain, as a gesture of good will (and a deal somewhere?) insisted that the troops use for footlocker inspections Tuxsan(sp) shoe polish, which had an artillery red can. Tuxsan's black polish was named "N*gger."

Two black Military Policemen on TDY came into the Lakenheath Base PX, asked for shoe polish, were shown the Tuxsan display, and they went berserk. The two were courtmarshalled , as I remember it, but just before, I came home, the regulation was changed.

In sensitivity to language, at least, we've come a long way.

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Postby blunted by community » Tue Mar 16, 2004 4:52 pm

or it could be that tynan revered welles from afar, and when he finally got to circle in welles' orbit he didn't like what he came up against. welles was clearly pissed by what tynan wrote, so i don't think it was a comedy of errors.

tynan angry at having to always play the stooge when around welles, and bitterly glaring at the round top of welles' head as opposed to the flat top of his, was overcome with anger and jelousy, and stabbed orson in the back with several articles.
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