The War Of The Worlds - Was anyone really listening?

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by Obssessed_with_Orson » Fri Oct 18, 2002 2:10 pm

anyone know if frank readick and edgar barrier had different birth names? can't find them in the indexes of nyt record.

let me know so i can look them up, please.

bye now!

by Le Chiffre » Thu Oct 17, 2002 12:35 pm

Thanks Natalie. I'm skeptical of Frank Readick doing operator 2x2L. To my ears it sounds more like Everett Sloan. Maybe Howard Smith was the guy Professor Pierson finds in the aftermath of the devastation, who wants to organize a revolt against the Martians. Then again, it might have been Richard Barr.

by Obssessed_with_Orson » Wed Oct 16, 2002 2:17 pm

the war of the worlds:

orson welles - professor richard pierson
frank readick - carl phillips, operator 2x2l
ray collins - wilmuth, harry mcdonald, rooftop announcer
paul stewart - new york weather announcer, studio announcer #3

kenny delmar - captain lansing, secretary of the interior, bayonne radio operator, policeman

richard wilson - brigadier general montgomery smith, langham field operator, voice of newark

william alland - meridian room announcer, gunner
stefan scnabel - observer
william herz - operator 8x3r
howard smith - unknown. but name is in the list.

by Obssessed_with_Orson » Mon Apr 22, 2002 6:08 pm

while looking through the newsweek archives, i found an article under which he was chosen first to do the voice of darth vader on star wars. but, they said it would have been too recognizable.

that's another reason why they never should have been afraid. his voice was, and still is, recognizable.

bye now!

p.s. i still say it was because they weren't listening to the damn words. no matter what wars etc. they had just returned home from.

by Le Chiffre » Sat Feb 16, 2002 6:32 pm

The Martian broadcast was one of those things that apparently created a wildfire of distorted rumors and practical jokes, as well as genuine panic. Hadley Cantrill's book on War of the Worlds, if I remember correctly (it's been awhile since I read it), contains a study of the panic indicating that many of the people who did panic never heard ANY of the broadcast! I remember the book quoting a woman who said that she never heard anything at all about Martians. All she heard was that gas bombs were being dropped, people were dying everywhere and all the roads were jammed. Sounds like a good reason to panic to me.

by jaime marzol » Wed Feb 06, 2002 4:07 pm

"unsophisticated audience, and a certain lunatic fringe both contributed. most just heard a few minutes of it before they went screaming to the hills," i say, then pull out my pepper spray in preperation for a wellesnet rumble.

by Steeler1 » Mon Feb 04, 2002 3:49 pm

Welles Fan,

Peace! :D
Please re-read my post. It was a general post, not directed to your remarks. As an educator, my intension was to enlighten not to attack your opinion of people in general. I interpreted 'shit for brains' as a description for the naivety of the 1930's radio audience. I now understand your intensions and remarks.

by Welles Fan » Mon Feb 04, 2002 1:02 pm

Steeler1-No they didn't all have shit for brains, but a large portion of the population did and still does. I didn't mean for that comment to be taken as a knock against the generation of the 30's. The internet hoaxes you allude to are proof that the same condition afflicts people of this generation. I'm talking about the people who will put on the DVD of Ben-Hur and then return it as "defective" because it has those "black bars" at the top and bottom of the screen.

Plus, it was meant to be a somewhat light-hearted remark, not a statement of scientific fact.

by Steeler1 » Mon Feb 04, 2002 12:40 pm

Knowing Mr. Marzol, Obssessed_With_Orson, I think Jaime was being facetious about 'secret info'! ;)

As a history teacher I have run into this problem when students make judgments about the actions of people in history.

Be careful when judging the reactions of people in the past. You do not want to view the world of 1938 using eyes and ears centered and focused on the electronic savvy world 2002. Today America is largely urban, but the America of 1938 was largely a rural, god-fearing society. The spread of news from across the country was slow. Radio provided instantaneous information for the first time in history, competing with local newspapers which were often days or weeks behind. Americans put their faith in radio because for the first time the latest news came into their homes from all over the world days before most rural newspapers could respond. Radio was trusted and no one before Welles had packaged entertainment in the guise of news. People didn't have 'shit for brains' (let's hope not for we are all the recipients of their DNA!) They, for the most part, were naïve and maybe childlike in the way they trusted news sources.

That's the beauty of the Mercury Theater’s "War of the Worlds" and why it was such a historic event.

Maybe the radio audiences of 2002 are too sophisticated to believe a ‘War of the Worlds’ type broadcast, but there were several news items reported in reference to the events of September 11th, 2001 that were generally believed and later proven incorrect.

by Obssessed_with_Orson » Sat Feb 02, 2002 5:49 pm

secret info?

there are no secrets about Orson Welles.

all the questions i want to get answered are from reading the books, and/or magazine and/or newspaper articles and going "huh?!"or "I don't get that"

by jaime marzol » Sat Feb 02, 2002 5:34 pm

Obssessed_with_Orson:
you are divulging secret welles info not known by many. stop before you get arrested and questioned.

by Obssessed_with_Orson » Sat Feb 02, 2002 2:16 pm

Sure, I wanna see.

I wanna see you count that many in the length of time that they had to do it in the radio broadcast, though.

:D

I know that radio was the only form of connection that they had in those days. But they still should have known better. And I agree with the past replies. They just had shit for brains.

An additional reason is because Mr. Welles's voice is so unforgetable; recognizable. With a few acceptions. If anyone has the War of the Worlds show, listen on side two, where the pilot is talking on the intercom. At the very start of the pilot talking, it sounds like Orson. But then, they dubbed the rest of it.

Just a little bit.

See ya,

natalie

:)

by jaime marzol » Sat Feb 02, 2002 3:20 am

i can count 7000 armed men in, oh, 13-minutes. wanna see?

by Welles Fan » Fri Feb 01, 2002 8:27 pm

The movie The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai: Across the 8th Dimension had an interesting theory about the Martian broadcast.

by Obssessed_with_Orson » Fri Feb 01, 2002 6:37 pm

Damn It! Hit something wrong. Have to start again.

Those people still were not listening to the program. One of the characters said:

7,000 armed men went into action. Only 120 known survivors.

First of all, you can not get 7,000 armed men from one place to another that quickly.

Second, you can not count that many dead bodies in that length of time.

The show was on the air at 8:00-9:00p.m. in most places. Between the talk of Professor Pierson ;) and the reporter, this was said:

Reporter: Could this have anything to do with the subject we've just heard about?

Professor: Oh, hardly. This is just a meteorite which has arrived at this coincdental time. But we will conduct a search when daylight permits.
When daylight permits
Daylight does not permit in less than 5 fucking minutes.

Someone sent Mr. Welles a letter saying:

All the geniuses were listening to a dummy
While all the dummies were listening to you

I think that is possibly true.

I don't know.

I've got more.

Later.
:p

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