A Fountain of Youth Account

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A Fountain of Youth Account

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I found some information regarding the Fountain of Youth. I had originally put it on my Billie Holiday post a while back. I just found it interesting because it's a first person account of Orson Welles. I'm sure most are already familiar with it, and it was probably brought up earlier already on the boards.

I had gotten this off the internet somewhere, and I'm sorry I can not remember where.

I really have no idea who this person is, but his name is Rick Jason. I have never seen the Fountain of Youth, so I am guessing he's in it???

Scrapbooks of My Mind
A Hollywood Autobiography by Rick Jason


Orson Welles and Feet of Clay

About seven months later, someone at the agency telephoned and said that Orson Welles wanted to see me about a pilot film for an anthology series he was going to make for Desilu.

Orson Welles wanted to see me?

I raced down to what had been the old RKO studios on Gower. This Desilu was one of three studio lots that had been acquired by Desi Arnaz and Lucille Ball from the profits of I Love Lucy.

I entered Orson Welles’ presence. One didn’t walk into his office, one entered his presence.

He was just an inch shy of my six-feet-four and his weight was in the neighborhood of 340 or so pounds. He had his suits made with straight up and down lines to the jacket, sort of boxy, but they didn’t really hide his girth. He was all charm. Smiling me to a chair, shaking my hand like we were long lost brothers, telling me how much he’d enjoyed my work. I had finally met my hero.

Warning! If you have a hero in your life whom you idolize from afar and you have an opportunity to meet him: WARNING! They may just have feet of clay. In this case, it was a dichotomy. I would have given anything to work with him, and afterwards I would have given anything to never work with him again.

The Fountain of Youth was from a short story that Welles adapted for his first (and last) venture into television. He produced, directed, edited, and did the on-screen and off-screen narration. He also dubbed some of the actors’ lines and had a hand in the music.

Inventive is a word that doesn’t come close to what this genius could do. He used a technique I’d never heard of, and one that I don’t believe has ever been used since. Rather than shooting scenes on Hollywood sets, he photographed still pictures of the exteriors and interiors he needed. What he couldn’t find for interiors, he had built, photographed, then tore down.

To shoot a scene, there was a slide projector sixty feet or so away from the camera that projected the still onto a huge opaque screen (which more than filled the camera lens) in front of which we worked. A few pieces of furniture, or whatever were required in the foreground to dress the set, completed the arrangement. Most scenes were in either medium or close shots and, rather than cut from one scene to the other, Welles had the actor stand in place while the opaque screen behind him dissolved to the new scene. If the actor was going from an exterior to an interior, the lights on him would go dark, leaving him in silhouette during the backscreen dissolve. As the background changed to the interior, the lights came up on his face and he removed his hat and coat as the camera pulled back revealing the new interior set.

Everything had to work with exactness, which was extremely time consuming. Welles was doing a lot of the cutting in the camera. The effect was astounding, though subtle, and Welles settled for nothing less than perfection. In his usual manner, money meant nothing to him. Desi had given him a five day schedule to shoot the half-hour pilot. Welles managed to bring it in in eight-and-a-half days. By the third day of shooting, a somewhat hyper, and very nervous, Desi would pop onto the stage in a spiffy sport jacket and black-and-white wing-tipped shoes, every two or three hours, smiling as broadly as he could, and call out, "How’s it going, Orson?"

Welles, without looking up from whatever he was doing, would dismiss him in an offhand way, "Fine, Desi, I’ll see you later."

Orson had, among other objectionable habits, a maddening one of walking away from you as you were in conversation with him. He’d talk to you over his shoulder and you found yourself trying to keep up with his stride as you spoke. One day he did it to me for the fourth or fifth time. I stopped, put two fingers in my mouth and let out a whistle that would frighten a banshee. He stopped, turned to me and said, "Something the matter?"

"Yes!"

"Well, what is it? Spit it out."

"When we’re conversing, will you kindly not walk away from me."

Absently he said, "Was I doing that? Sorry" (He wasn’t sorry a bit.) He cleared his throat and said, "What is it you wanted?"

I stared at him. "Nothing," I said, turned and walked away. He turned as well and was on his way.

My two co-stars were Joi Lansing, a woman who played dumb bleached blondes, and was anything but dumb or blonde, and Dan Tobin, a fine character comedian. Dan, the eldest of we three, passed away in 1982. Poor Joi, who was a true joy to work with, died in her early thirties, cutting short a promising career.

There was a three-shot resembling the marriage ceremony in which Dan, standing in the position of the preacher, makes us promise to keep a secret. We were set in place and said our lines as the camera moved around us a full 360 degrees. Welles and his cameraman walked around this triangle as we rehearsed, talking sotto voce. When we got to the end of the scene he’d say, "Good, run it again," and we’d run it again, and again. And again.

After half-an-hour of rehearsing and standing in one spot without moving, Orson said to do it once more. "Orson," I said, "we’ve been standing here for thirty minutes. You’ve heard of tired?"

"You’re right," he said. He indicated three bent cane–backed chairs and asked for them to be brought into the set. My God, I thought, the man has some humanity in him after all.

"Turn the chairs around," he directed, "now then, people, rest your hands on the chair backs and let’s do it one more time."

Alfred Hitchcock once protested, when told he’d referred to actors as cattle, "I never said actors were cattle. I said actors should be treated like cattle." That’s about the way Welles treated his actors.

We finished, and the cameraman called for a break while he set the lights. I was walking off the set past Orson who was observing the light stands being moved into place. I threw at him, "You sonofabitch!" He looked at me for a moment threw his head back and laughed. It was the funniest thing he’d heard all day.

Not only did the pilot not sell, but nine other Desilu pilots didn’t sell, either. Desilu made a deal to run the ten unsold shows on television as an anthology series. The Fountain Of Youth, shown just that once, won the coveted Peabody Broadcast award as the best comedy of 1956.

It took me eight years to buy a 16 mm print of the show. I’ve watched it and shown it to friends over the years at least a dozen times (it now resides in the UCLA Film Archives). My memories of Orson have softened with time, and working with his unmatched talent was an experience worth being in show business. Herman Mankiewicz, who wrote the screenplay for Citizen Kane in collaboration with Welles, probably summed him up as well as anybody. As Orson walked past the open door of Mankiewicz’s office one day, Herman turned to a friend and said, "Ah, there, but for the grace of God, goes God."

"Ah, there, but for the grace of God, goes God." :D
"I know a little about Orson's childhood and seriously doubt if he ever was a child."--Joseph Cotten
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Thanks O.J. for posting the Rick Jason piece.

I had never seen it before and it's certainly a very valuable and revealing look at the making of one of Welles hardest to see short films, THE FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH. This little film is quite brilliant, and everyone who sees it thinks it's amazing, so why someone doesn't release it is anybody's guess - probably because it's only 28 minutes.

As you guessed, Rick Jason plays the leading man in the show - as a handsome and ego-centric tennis star who along with Joi Lansing is tempted to swallow a dose of liquid which will bestow on him immortality, or so he thinks...

I wonder how Welles decided on casting him in the first place... must have seen him in something he had done, but unfortunately Jason doesn't mention what it might have been... perhaps it was on the recommendation of producer William Castle... Jason had appeared in Castle's 1954 film "The Saracen Blade." I had also forgotten that Rick Jason was the star, along with Vic Morrow of the "Combat" TV series in the sixties.
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Thank you Orson & Jazz for posting this account.

Larry: You might want to check out the online version of Jason's autobiography, from which this excerpt came.

http://www.scrapbooksofmymind.com/

He writes pretty well and has a lot of stories, but evidently in the end, he came to something like the problem that his character in "Fountain of Youth" discovered. In real life, he appears to have suffered from egomania of a particularly virulent kind -- even for an actor. He told his agent to stick his contract when he was asked to read for a good part at the age of 67: A "don't you know who I am?" kind of moment. He tells us ten years later, in 2000, when he published his Autobiography, that he is looking forward to being eighty, in 2003. Six foot-four (like Welles), on his fifth marriage, feeling at least ten years younger, so he says, he claims to be ready for new adventures. A few months later, he shot himself.

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Welcomes all around, and a thanks to Glenn.

That is definitely where I got the excerpt from. For some reason the damned thing escaped me!

I just hunt the web for anything interesting on Orson, usually googling his name. I never pay attention to where I click, or keep track of site addys. I should for future references.

But, yes, that's where the excerpt originated. ;)



"Ah, there, but for the grace of God, goes God."
The Beatles were said to be bigger than Jesus, but Welles is actually God! That's fantastic! :D
"I know a little about Orson's childhood and seriously doubt if he ever was a child."--Joseph Cotten
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It's interesting to contrast the brash and inconsiderate Welles of 1958 with the far less confident figure he cut in his later years, when he was shaken by betrayals and worn down by age and underemployment.
After reading Rick Jason's account of the filming of THE FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH, I can't help but think of Welles as a middle-aged Georgie Minafer, who will get his comeuppance three times over in 20 years or so.
Jaime Marzol was kind enough to send me a tape of THE FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH a while back. Yes it's a brilliant teleplay, truly one of Welles' best works, and unlike anything I have ever seen on television before or since (its brilliance is only matched by Gerd Osward's work on THE OUTER LIMITS). But THE FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH came at such a cost – Welles' shenanigans at Desilu did not go unnoticed by network brass and he was denied any further opportunities to direct for U.S. television. So there are no made-for-TV movies directed by Orson Welles (unless we count THE IMMORTAL STORY made for ORTF in France.)
As for Rick Jason, what a lamentably undistinguished career. I can't believe he turned down the lead role in THE FLY (1958). I disagree with Jason when he says THE FLY did nothing for David Hedison's career. Hedison never looked back after taking the part Jason turned down. He went on to do the TV series FIVE FINGERS and VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA and a couple of James Bond films.
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That's an amusing anecdote, but as I thought about it later, my chief impression went from empathizing with Jason's experience to thinking that he was a whiner. He couldn't endure standing up for thirty minutes - this tall, young, athletic-looking actor...a veteran of the Army Air Corps (who, therefore, should not have been unfamiliar with standing still for long periods of time)!

Welles was probably mocking him when he brought the chairs over but didn't let them sit down. I'd love to know how he would have behaved on the set of a Kubrick film.

Apart from that, it's annoying to have people walk away from you when you're trying to have a conversation, but you have to expect that if you're on a film set, where everyone, especially the director, if he's any good - and I think we can agree that Welles is better than "any good" - is running around like mad trying to get things done.

I don't see Welles as a Georgie personality here. Was it wise to take a passive-adverserial stance towards his leading man? Maybe not, but I'm reminded of a line in Sun-Tzu's Art of War: "If your opponent is of choleric temperment, seek to irritate him."
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Orson and Jazz:

Thanks for the Rick Jason info; there's not much info available on "Fountain of youth", so it's nice to see a first-hand report.

Actually, there should be a book, or even a documentary, just on Welles's tv work: his directing of "Gina!"
(Lollabrigida), "Orson's Bag" (including 'Merchant of Venice'), "Fountain of Youth", "Sketchbook", "Camille, the Naked Lady, and the Musketeers" (lost?), "Immortal Story", "Around the World With Orson Welles", "Don Quixote" (originally made for tv), "In the Land of Don Quixote", "The Magic Show", "The Orson Welles Show" (pilot), his acting in such shows as "Twentieth Century" and "Lear", and his appearances on series such as "I Love Lucy", "Dean Martin", "Laugh-in', 'Johnny Carson' (including guest-hosting), "Merv Griffin"- there's a lot; it's a very interesting aspect of his work, and in the Leaming and Bazin books he says some interesting stuff about tv:

Here's Bazin and Welles (from a 1958 interview):

"Welles has found in television an opportunity for self-expression that Hollywood denied him. The frugality of television allowed him, using the money he earned as an actor and on TV, to set up a production of "Don Quixote"... a modern version of the Cervantes novel. It was shot in Mexico following a principle of complete improvisation inspired by the early cinema...

Welles: "It's a shooting method I'd never tried...I was also sure that this story would be fresher and more interesting if I really improvised, and it is, without a doubt...it's a very special method of work which is impractical for commercial films...The frugality of television is a marvelous thing. The great classic film obviously looks bad on the little screen, for television is the enemy of classic cinematic values, but not of cinema itself. It's a marvelous form when the spectator's only a few feet away from the screen, but it isn't a dramatic form, it's a narrative form- so much so that television is the ideal means of expression for the storyteller...On television, you can say ten times as much in one tenth of the time taken in a movie, because you're only addressing two or three people. And above all, you're adressing the ear. For the first time, in television, cinema takes on a real value, finds it's real function in the fact that it speaks, for the most important thing is what you say and not what you show. so words are no longer the enemies of film: film only helps words, for in fact telvision is nothing but illustrated radio."

And this, from Leaming:

"...I did a half-hour thing about Dumas called "Camille, the Naked Lady and the Musketeers" (1956)...I made it for myself. I spent my own money. I wanted to do a series of half-hour portraits of people. This was just me telling the story of the three Dumas, with pictures of them and drawings by me. In a purely narrative form, but quite visual in spite of that. Nobody would have any part of it. I thought I could sell it- syndication or something. Not a chance; nobody would look at it..."Gina Lollabrigida" (1958) was about the Roman movie world. She was the leading subject, but a lot of other people were in it- De Sica and so on. The film was made as a pilot for ABC of a proposed series, a sort of magazine- a serious one, not variety. And they hated it and that was the end of that...they said it was technically incompetent and couldn't be shown. Had a lot of new ideas in it- done with Sternberg's drawings, many still photos, conversations, little stories- and they regarded that as technical incompetence. I spent a lot of time photographing movie posters. That bothered them too...It was made for that (TV) screen, and in the newspaper tradition. Me on a given subject, Lollabrigida, and not what she is in reality. An essay. Anyway, they hated it."

When I read this, I think of "F for fake" and also "Filming Othello", and marvel at how intimate they are- both, in my view, made for the TV screen, and in the narrative form welles talks about. Maybe he should have tried to sell "Fake" to TV back in the 70s? He seems to have been simply too far ahead of his times.
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"Gina Lollabrigida" (1958) was about the Roman movie world. She was the leading subject, but a lot of other people were in it- De Sica and so on. The film was made as a pilot for ABC of a proposed series, a sort of magazine- a serious one, not variety. And they hated it and that was the end of that...they said it was technically incompetent and couldn't be shown. Had a lot of new ideas in it- done with Sternberg's drawings, many still photos, conversations, little stories...
Maybe it was misspelled in your source, and it might lead to confusion since it's the name of a film director: Welles is not talking about Sternberg, but Steinberg, i.e Saul Steinberg (1914-1999), the famous artist and illustrator who used to draw covers and cartoons for the New Yorker magazine. Orson Welles uses some of his cartoons about Italy and the italians in this film.
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Elmyr:

you've peaked my curiosity: might you be one of the few who've seen this film, "Gina!" ? I know it's been shown at least once at a festival, but that Lollabrigida doean't want it shown on TV, or put into general distribution.

Of course, I can understand her postion: who wants an Orson Welles bio of themself available to the public? :0
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I ran FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH in my class last night and referred to Jason's biography. There is no 360 degree camera movement in the scene he describes so Welles must have decided to abandon it. However, had he decided to go ahead he would have anticipated Hitchcock's simiilar technique in VERTIGO by one year.

After all, he did anticipate the long take in ROPE during the filming of MACBETH.

It is a really ingenious teleplay making great use of the sliide projector and freeze frames.
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Tony, I did see A portrait of Gina in a Welles showing in Lisbon, along with his complete "official" filmography and lots of stuff from Munich. Oja Kodar and Stefan Droessler were there and there was some rather interesting talk about Orson. And I saw F for Fake twice in the same week, yessss!
It really amazes me how many of these films are so rarely seen. And his TV work, like the rest, was way ahead of his time.
Anyway I must confess that the film with Gina Lollobrigida wasn't among the ones that impressed me the most. Sure it was quite good, but I was overwhelmed by things like Filming Othello, Charles Lindbergh or the Shylock readings. And The Fountain of Youth is a little masterpiece.
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Elmyr, Thanks for your posting. One only hopes that these "unseen" films become available one day on DVD so we can have access to the vast wealth of Welles's creative work, both in terms of its creativity and diversity. We also owe much to those dedicated people working beneath the scenes on their own restorations of those Welles films which were drastically re-edited and re-arranged. Perhaps we may have our own version of an "underground railway" soon far away from the eyes of Beatrice and other ambulance chasers.
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Tony wrote:Elmyr:

you've peaked my curiosity: might you be one of the few who've seen this film, "Gina!" ? I know it's been shown at least once at a festival, but that Lollabrigida doean't want it shown on TV, or put into general distribution.

Of course, I can understand her postion: who wants an Orson Welles bio of themself available to the public? :0
It's all true. I remember that in a Welles festival in Rome, some years ago (around 1995 or so), the short film was show once a time, by surprise, without any scheduled anticipation in the program. I dont' know who actually owns the rights of "Portrait of Gina", but I know for sure that Gina Lollobrigida tried to stop the distribution, at least in Italy, because she don't agree, moreover, with Welles portrait of Subiaco, the native small village of actress in Ciociaria region, the poorest rural (at the times) part of Latium region. Welles did many ironical shot of donkeys carrying people around the narrow, medieval streets of Subiaco and that thing was definitely in contrast with the glamour that the italian stars like Lollobrigida or Loren, hoping to work in Hollywood, tried to build around her stars image. Anyway, the short film is very funny, and I can still remember the joke in the warm Welles' voice off , and particularly his eyes - brilliant, full of ironical 'divertissement' - during the interview with Gina.
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Dear Alan Smithee:

what a nice post you have given us- very evocative! And yes- Welles' ironic eyes- and that cheshire cat grin- very well said. Also, what you wrote reminds me of Welles problems in Brazil, of course- the Brazilian govt. didn't want the real life of the people shown, but only the american fantasy of the "folk-life" of the "locals".

Very nice post!!! :)
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