Books on Welles

jaime marzol · Post by **jaime marzol** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:18 am

ok, i went to the search engine and could not find any of the old threads on books. i searched "best books" "books on orson" and dind't find the old threads.

Chirpy_Sabz · Post by **Chirpy_Sabz** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:19 am

ok, i went to the search engine and could not find any of the old threads on books. i searched "best books" "books on orson" and dind't find the old threads.

I found this thread, it is very useful and thanks for the recommendations in your other post.

http://www.wellesnet.com/cgi-bin....+welles

chrissie · Post by **chrissie** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:44 pm

I just dozed through the close of an ebay auction for the legendary Brady book. I am not happy.

jaime marzol · Post by **jaime marzol** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:46 pm

library has lots of them.

you can also find it at www.half.com for $1.00 i bet.

and at edward r hamilton bookseller for $3.75

yeap, it doesn't hold it's value, but it's a hell of a read.

chrissie · Post by **chrissie** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:09 pm

$1.85 at half.com (which I only just heard about), but -- ARGH! They don't accept overseas orders at the moment. I'm in the newly explosive UK. Hamilton site not responding here. I will persist.

Books I do have: TiOW, Leaming, Interviews and -- gift from well-meaning but ill-informed friend -- Higham.

Quiz time: I haven't yet read one of the above. Any guesses? ;)

etimh · Post by **etimh** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:56 pm

chrissie:

Get the Heylin book, "Despite the System." Its goooooood.

Hey, is anybody else watching Ambersons on TCM right now (6:00 pm Pacific Time)?

Tim

jaime marzol · Post by **jaime marzol** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 3:32 am

crissie:
so sorry those losers at half.com have not figured out how to get mail to the newly explosive england, it's a great place to find stuff that other sites jab you for. THE GOTTI TAPES, i almost broke down and paid the 40 bucks for this baby from a bookseller, then i found it for $1.25 at half.com. also found the hard to find lilian ross book, PICTURE, for $1.75. and 100 other such treasures.

my recommendations:
1 citizen welles, frank brady

2 this is OW, the book, and the audio tapes

3 despite the system, clinton heylin

4 the magic world of OW, james naremore

5 OW joseph mcbride

6 film art, david bordwell - it's not about welles, it's about watching films, but has the most bitching analysis ever written on kane, and on a bunch of other great films, and it will teach you a new way to enjoy films. bordwell is my film analysis guru. he has another bitching book called inference and rhetoric in the interpretation of cinema the really kicks.

7 the commentary track on criterion's othello, by myron meisel, it's fabulous.

8 the citizen kane book by harlan lebo

9 OW by bret wood

10 gary graver's documentary on welles

11 stories from a life in films with OW, a documentary

12 the welles segment of the RKO STORY, a documentary

13 OW, shakespeare, and popular culture, michael andregg

i think these items are the pinnacle of any welles collection.
and i'm sure i'm forgetting 3 or 4 other items important items.

i don't care for higham, kael, or robert carringer. IMHO, kael and higham are big fat liars, and carringer is always looking for any one he can give credit to besides welles. according to carringer, kane was made by every one that worked on it, except welles. he would credit an usher at a movie theater for the kane screenplay, if he could find the name of an usher in a theater in 1940. the calow and thomson books i thought were poor, but a lot of people didn't think so.

NoFake · Post by **NoFake** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:47 pm

Has anyone here read John Evangelist Walsh's "Walking Shadows: Orson Welles, William Randolph Hearst, and Citizen Kane"? I just started it. According to the flyleaf, the book "for the first time brings Hearst's vengeful anti-Kane campaign to the fore." At a quick glance, the bibliography seems to have rounded up the usual suspects (and some not-so-usual), so I'm looking forward to an absorbing, and hopefully illuminating, read.

If anyone's already read it, is there anything I should be on the lookout for?

Thanks,

NoFake · Post by **NoFake** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:29 pm

Apologies to all, and especially tony and jaime, for having interrupted the TIOW thread with my previous message. My only excuse is that I'm a rabid reader of all things Wellesian, and, not having seen "Walking Shadows" among the books listed, was eager to know if anyone here had read it, and could recommend (or recommend against) it.

Again, apologies all 'round!

etimh · Post by **etimh** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:50 pm

NoFake:

NoApologies necessary--at least not to me. The subject of this thread is "Best Books on Orson Welles?", so I think your question was on topic and appropriate.

And getting back to the subject, I also was genuinely interested in the book you were asking about. No, I haven't read it, but it sounds cool.

How about "drinks all round!"

Tim

Eve_h · Post by **Eve_h** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:53 pm

To NoFake:

maybe this will help you - a review of "Walking Shadows" by Wilson on this board ...

Topic: What Ever Happened to -, - Joseph McBride's new Welles Bio?

NoFake · Post by **NoFake** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:18 pm

Eve_h, you did it again! Thanks so much. (And thanks, Tim. :-) I'd done a search for "Walking Shadows" using Wellesnet's search engine and received a negative response, which is why I asked. As always, Jeff gets to the heart of things, and provides an invaluable precis. Thanks fagain!

NoFake · Post by **NoFake** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:54 pm

Two French books that look interesting, both on THE TRIAL: "The Trial: 40 Questions/40 Answers/4 Studies," by Jean-Pierre Damour, and "The Trial: Verbal Language and Images." Has anyone read these?

jaime marzol · Post by **jaime marzol** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:07 pm

i immediately jumped to amazon ready to buy these 2 titles, and they don't have them. they must have no translation yet. too bad

NoFake · Post by **NoFake** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:07 pm

Yes, same with the Isaghpour trio (which I have, but have barely started. So much on Welles; so little time!!!). Hopefully, someone will nudge an amenable Stateside/British publisher, enabling those who don't read French to add these books to their personal Welles library.