Welles commercials - need help compiling list!

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The appearance of these "new" Nikka spots are serendipitous. I've been wanting to see the Dietrich one since the summer and was literally about to give up on finding it just as I found the response post.
Le Chiffre wrote:Anyone else besides me think he may have had a hand in directing the ones for Nikka?
From letters I was reading this past summer at University of Michigan, that is more than likely. While I didn't find a credit sheet that literally said that Welles directed them, I'm almost positive the Dietrich one was made by Welles. There was a point of contention by the ad agency (Jima Dentsu) over that spot regarding the use of Dietrich's image and its legal use in Japan. I believe Welles brushed off the concerns in a later letter, but I could be wrong about that. I have a picture of Welles' response and forgot to move a business card that is clipped over the date on the letter, so I'm not 100% on the order of events I just listed. I've already plotted my next trip to U of M to figure out that mystery and to look at some more of the new Welles items.

To go even further about Welles directing the spots, if Welles didn't leave the campaign/get dropped from it (I'm not totally clear on that yet), he was going to have nearly full control over the spots. More papers I read over the summer included budget sheets and scripts for many more spots that were going to have demos filmed over the bicentennial celebration in 1976! There are also memos from Welles to the crew of those spots about how they need to get them done over the holiday. I'm pretty sure that the Nikka spot that is in One Man Band featuring Welles and Kodar playing a shell game is one of the 1976 demos films and not an actual commercial that ran. I saw a script similar to that spot with other scripts of demo films.
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Thanks for the info, cartergold. I look forward to your book. Everytime I watch one of the Nikkas, I get the feeling I'm watching a little 1-minute Welles movie, and your research strengthens the case. I'd like to see more of his Carlsburg and Domecq commercials as well, as my guess is that he had somewhat more artistic control in general over his non-American commercials. Hopefully more will become available, in better quality.

I've also seen several websites online that allude to Welles having done commercials for Sandeman Port wine, and the "Don" figure on Sandeman bottles certainly resembles the mysterious caped persona that Welles created for himself in the 1970s and 80s, but I've never seen any hard evidence that he actually did any commercials for Sandeman. Have you?

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Le Chiffre wrote:Thanks for the info, cartergold. I look forward to your book.
Thanks! I'll admit, every little bit of motivation helps.
Le Chiffre wrote:I've also seen several websites online that allude to Welles having done commercials for Sandeman Port wine, and the "Don" figure on Sandeman bottles certainly resembles the mysterious caped persona that Welles created for himself in the 1970s and 80s, but I've never seen any hard evidence that he actually did any commercials for Sandeman. Have you?

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I haven't come across anything about Sandeman yet, but I won't rule it out. That image certainly does have that F for Fake look to it, though. He did so many campaigns that I don't know quite when this will end. It is a double-edged sword anytime something new comes up. I get ecstatic when I find a "new" ad, but then I wonder what else might be out there that is still seemingly lost. Since November I've been able to find out about two bank campaigns Welles did (one in Delaware, another in Louisiana), a voice-over for a Radio Broadcasters Bureau ad, and participation in an Oregon tourism campaign. If small campaigns like this are still out there in the wind, then maybe something more substantial from Sandemann can/will show up.
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Here's another commercial, this time for First National Bank in Louisiana. The ad is in a video for a longer annual report, but the quality is pretty good and there is a behind the scenes pic to boot!

https://youtu.be/ZKQJvHdq-rs?t=2m57s
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There is another, longer video for the Shreveport Bank where they discuss the "award-winning Orson Welles series" of commercials, from 11:30 to 12:45:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M09Kcj4mbpc

Marketing expert Judy Williams discusses her time working with Orson Welles on the series of commercials for the FNB Shreveport:
http://www.allyallblog.com/tag/first-national-bank/
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Wellesnet wrote:There is another, longer video for the Shreveport Bank where they discuss the "award-winning Orson Welles series" of commercials, from 11:30 to 12:45:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M09Kcj4mbpc
Somehow totally missed seeing these. Thanks for the heads up.
Wellesnet wrote:Marketing expert Judy Williams discusses her time working with Orson Welles on the series of commercials for the FNB Shreveport:
http://www.allyallblog.com/tag/first-national-bank/
I've actually been in contact with Judy lately. Absolutely lovely person and great to speak with. She even got me in touch with the director of the commercials. Recently, he happened to be visiting family not too far away from where I live. We met up for lunch and he told me many great, positive stories about working with Welles.
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Nashua Copiers Commercial n. 2

https://youtu.be/RMtStUFkZ6M

Sorry if this commercial was already in another post in the message bord.
This new Nashua commercial seems interresting with the fact it is particularly related to Welles univers. It remain the Magic show and F for fake.
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Producer-director Peter Shillingford reached out to us to clarify comments attributed to him. He says that Orson Welles was NOT drunk during the infamous "French champagne" shoot, rather he was feeling the effects of a sleeping pill.
https://www.wellesnet.com/drunken-commercial/
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Nashua Copiers Commercial - Orson Welles - Australia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMtStUFkZ6M
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