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David Thomson Movieline article

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Hello everyone.

I'm wondering if anyone can help me with a PDF or some such of the article Thomson wrote on Welles for Movieline in it's November 2002 issue. 'The Most Successful Person in Hollywood' was the title I believe.

Thanks in advance.
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We did have an old thread on that article, but not much in-depth discussion of it, I'm afraid:
http://wellesnet.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=803

If you find it let us know. There is this Guardian article from 2009, which sounds like it might be something of an update of the 2002:

Orson Welles: The most glorious film failure of them all
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2009/o ... tizen-kane
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Thanks. I'll confess I only know of the Movieline article because of that log you linked to.

I have the Guardian article already.

BFI library here I come...

Thanks again
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Wellesnet wrote:There is this Guardian article from 2009, which sounds like it might be something of an update of the 2002:
Orson Welles: The most glorious film failure of them all
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2009/o ... tizen-kane
Late to this thread, but I stumbled across The Guardian piece by David Thomson today and found this garbage, I mean passage:

  • He died, alone and broke, in a cottage in the Hollywood hills on 10 October 1985, at which point his affairs and his estate passed into a chaos that he had known and engineered for most of his life.

Orson Welles died at 1717 North Stanley Ave., a property which contained a main house, pool and guest house. Few would describe it as a "cottage." It was Welles' second home. He also owned a larger house with Paola Mori, his wife of 30 years, at 3189 Montecito Drive in Las Vegas. That 3,800-square-foot home had five bedrooms, four bathrooms, attached three-car garage and in-ground pool.
"Broke" men do not own two homes like that!
He was "alone" in the sense that his longtime girlfriend, Oja Kodar, was on vacation in Europe at the time. There was a relative of Kodar staying at the home when Welles died in the middle of the night after enjoying dinner with friends.
I have delved into the Welles estate. The "chaos" was not because Welles was broke or left a mountain of debt. There were legal disagreements between Mori and Kodar over off-shore accounts and pensions. Mori died in August 1986 before a deal was reached. Kodar and Welles' youngest daughter, Beatrice, finalized the agreement three months later.

So, the only thing Thomson got right was that Orson Welles died on October 10, 1985.
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And Welles's Hollywood home was not in the hills but in the flatlands . . . this
reminds me of Charles Higham writing that Kenosha is in northern Wisconsin.
Certain British writers have trouble with American geography, it seems.
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