The AFI Lifetime Achievement: Orson Welles (1975) - laserdisc sometimes seen on eBay

Jaime N. Christley · Post by **Jaime N. Christley** » Sat Jun 01, 2002 10:07 am

Is this a keeper? Unless I'm mistaken, it sounds like this is the only opportunity, short of a screening with Gary Graver or a tape of One Man Band, to see clips from The Other Side of the Wind.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1540818504

Jeff Wilson · Post by **Jeff Wilson** » Sat Jun 01, 2002 11:22 am

There are also clips from OSotW in Gary Graver's Working With Orson Welles documentary.

Jaime N. Christley · Post by **Jaime N. Christley** » Sat Jun 01, 2002 11:53 am

So, one should just go with WWOW then?

I see that one's available on Amazon, whereas the AFI disc looks to be harder to find.

Jeff Wilson · Post by **Jeff Wilson** » Sun Jun 02, 2002 9:24 pm

It's been ages since I've seen the AFI thing, but I believe the Graver docu has some footage the AFI doesn't, namely that of a more sexual nature. The AFI thing is worth seeing, but not laying out much money for. Welles' speech at the end, extolling the virtues of the independent filmmaker, is particularly touching, viewing it with the knowledge that these same Hollywood people honoring him would subsequently refuse to help him finish the film. The Graver docu is no great shakes either, as it is weirdly constructed and filled with some less than stellar material.

Fredric · Post by **Fredric** » Mon Jun 03, 2002 9:48 am

Jeff, I think you're referring to One Man Band. I don't think there is any OSOTW footage on Working with Orson Welles.

One Man Band has two segments from the film:
The Press Party
The Car Sex Scene

The AFI Tribute has two segments:
The Press Party (Extended beyond where OMB ends)
Watching the Rushes (In my mind, the most important segment; this one is absolutely breathtaking)

I'll have to check my WWOW dvd again, but I'm sure there isn't anything significant from TOSOTW on it. It's got the Jaded trailer though.

Jeff Wilson · Post by **Jeff Wilson** » Mon Jun 03, 2002 10:47 am

Yeah, you're right. I haven't watched the Graver film in a long while either. It has a lot about OSotW, though. And yes, the Jaded trailer, which looks like an oddball film to be sure. Very strange to see Merchant of Venice footage in what looks like an exploitation movie.

Fredric · Post by **Fredric** » Tue Jun 04, 2002 8:58 am

Yes, you are correct. There are many stories about TOSOTW from those who participated in it. No clips, sadly. The best stuff is from Peter Jason, who is a fine storyteller and does a great Orson impression. He also plays a zombie in Caprenter's Prince of Darkness, so there's that bonus.

Jaime N. Christley · Post by **Jaime N. Christley** » Mon Jun 10, 2002 12:04 am

Wow, I just practically beat up an old lady to win this eBay auction. I probably overpaid, but what the hell, I wanted the damn thing.

Woo-hoo!

jaime marzol · Post by **jaime marzol** » Mon Jun 10, 2002 1:04 am

when to disc arrives, send it back. tell the guy it's not what you were led to beleive it was.

the AFI welles is available on the web in vhs for $15.00. probably $5.00 at www.half.com

Jaime N. Christley · Post by **Jaime N. Christley** » Mon Jun 10, 2002 1:20 am

when to disc arrives, send it back. tell the guy it's not what you were led to beleive it was.

Why would I lie?

the AFI welles is available on the web in vhs for $15.00. probably $5.00 at www.half.com

I'm sure it is.

jaime marzol · Post by **jaime marzol** » Tue Jun 11, 2002 2:32 am

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you are absolutely right. why lie. it's a great show, i know you will enjoy it. heston, bogdanovich, george stevens jr were the most eloquent speakers on welles, especially george stevens jr. sinatra was a bit confused, he thought he was at a friars roast with fat jokes, but otherwisevery enjoyable. and you get the OTHER SIDE OF THE WIND clips. you can't go wrong.

jaime marzol · Post by **jaime marzol** » Tue Jun 11, 2002 2:39 am

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gravers documentary, WORKING WITH WELLES, is also excellent. i've enjoyed it many times. has lots of stories, and pictures from the making of TOSOTW.

if you put the 3 items together, ONE MAN BAND, AFI, THE GRAVER docu, you will have all the clips available on TOSOTW, and bunches of behind the scene stories, and stills of the filming.

i have a laser disc of the graver docu i'll sell you for $89

arvium3 · Post by **arvium3** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 2:11 pm

Hi - A message for everyone looking for these three shows: The AFI presentation, "One Man Band," and the BBC OW interview. I got good copies from Chris. Not great, but they're fine. ("One Man Band" appears under the title "The Lost Films of OW.") The AFI presentation was kind of interesting, a time capsule of the mid-70's in a way. Best part was Welles' speech and the clip he shows from TOSOTW, which is also in "Lost Films."
"Lost Films" was intriguing. Amazing how much unfinished work he left behind. And hearing Oja Kodan's stories about him was a treat. This tape shows two clips from TOSOTW, one of which OW showed at the AFI tribute, perhaps to drum up some support to finish it. And lots of other wonderful footage on this tape.
But the real topper was the two-part, 3 hour interview. Welles was as articulate and forthcoming as ever. This took place in '82 and I think he wanted to get it all down for the record before it was too late. I now feel I understand him so much better. There are also interviews with his cast/co-stars that I found very revealing as well.
I told Chris I'd be happy to vouch for him. He gave me the three shows on four tapes (SP record mode) for $25, including shipping.
He's at: [email=chriskoc@msn.com.]chriskoc@msn.com.[/email] Enjoy - arvium3